Chef Nishihara of Kajitsu in New York City talks to us about his food, philosophy and shojin ryori.
Don't expect to find sushi, or any fish at all on the menu, because Kajitsu specializes in Shojin Ryori, an ancient form of Japanese cuisine that doesn't use any animal products. For those of us who sway towards a carnivorous diet, the term "vegan" might come to mind, but I hesitate to use that label because other labels like "flavourless" and "boring" often go hand in hand.
To Chef Nishihara, who spent a decade training in the art of Kaiseki Ryori in Kyoto, Shojin Ryori is the patriarch of modern Japanese cuisine. It's ironic then, that this chef who's dedicated his career to the purest form of Japanese cuisine, is also an innovator, pushing the boundaries of a 500 year old tradition.
Stepping down into Kajitsu you feel as though you've been whisked away from the tree-lined East Village street into an old wooden home in Kyoto. The air is perfumed with the nutty fragrance of ancient timber, and the simple decor directs your eyes towards the few decorative flourishes placed thoughtfully around the space.
"In the human world, people of different cultures can get along with each other. Why not vegetables?"
With three supporting chefs in the kitchen, Chef Nishihara stands behind a long wood counter every night, plating each dish with a calm efficiency and artisanal precision that makes yoga look chaotic.
I had originally planned to write a full review of Kajitsu, but how do I write a balanced review of my favourite Japanese restaurant in Manhattan? Realizing it couldn't be done, I decided to interview the genius behind the counter instead.
Marc: So when did you first discover your interest for food?
Chef Nishihara: As far as I can remember, I was about 8 years old. It was when I made a sunnyside-up egg on a pan after watching my mom making it. I can't remember exactly how I made it, but do remember I felt so excited when I got a compliment from my mother. Interestingly though, I saw a picture of me cutting vegetables when I was only 3 years old. But I don't remember it at all. My mom told me that I was cutting vegetables for a barbeque party.
Marc: I understand you used to cook using fish and meat. What attracted you to Shojin Ryori?
Chef Nishihara: As I studied Kaiseki cuisine, I found that it was originated in Cha Kaiseki, which was a type of cuisine served at tea ceremonies. Then I studied further to find out that the very origin of Cha Kaiseki itself was Shojin Ryori. I concluded that Shojin Ryori is actually the very origin of our Japanese cuisine, which I think is amazing.
Marc: The menu here reflects your culinary training in Kaiseki cuisine, but also integrates non-traditional ingredients. What inspires these new combinations?
Chef Nishihara: In the human world, people of different cultures can get along with each other. Why not vegetables? When I look at a Western ingredient that is not typically used in Kaiseki, I tried to get rid of all kinds of stereotypes or so-called traditional recipes for the ingredient, but try to look at it as if I saw it for the first time. Then I try to think what is the best way to get most out of the ingredient in order to make it fit into my other ingredients.
Marc: Moving to a new country and starting a restaurant must be quite an adventure. What is one of the best things about being a chef in New York City?
Chef Nishihara: The best thing is that people are open-minded toward food. Even though I don't speak English, through food I make I can communicate with people who are interested in food, which is really great.
Marc: ...and the most challenging?
Chef Nishihara: The challenging thing is that people have different tastes. Even among Japanese people there are differences in taste. So including all kinds of people in New York, I still have a hard time to think how to adjust the target "taste/flavor" for each dish.
Marc: Many chefs here like to integrate Japanese flavours and techniques into their cuisine. What would be your advice for someone that wants to truly understand the essence of Japanese cooking?
Chef Nishihara: If adding doesn't work, take away.
Marc: What are your thoughts on the locally grown sustainable food movement here in the US?
Chef Nishihara: I think there should be good relationship between consumers and producers of sustainable food. The restaurants could be perfect mediators who can contribute great support to the movement by buying, cooking, and providing dishes using the sustainable food.
Marc: What do you hope customers will take away from their dining experience at Kajitsu?
Chef Nishihara: I hope that our customers will have a chance to feel and appreciate authentic Japanese culture from anything we have in the restaurant, which could be our tables, décor, service, food, etc.
Marc: I know you must spend most of your time at the restaurant, but when you are not at work, what do you like to cook at home?
Chef Nishihara: Pasta. I look at whatever my wife leaves in the refrigerator and then cook something using them. It's fun.
414 E. 9th St.
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