Crustless milk and cardamom “pumpkin pie”

December 2, 2008 · 76 comments

Crustless Milk and Cardamom Pumpkin Pie

I’ve never been a big fan of pumpkin pie. To me they’re chalky and mushy in texture and overly spiced in flavour and yet they lack any depth or richness. This year I had a gluten intolerant guest coming to Thanksgiving, so I wanted to create something he could eat too.

kabocha

This dessert is impressive looking yet it’s really simple to make. The custard inside is creamy and silky smooth (like chawanmushi or silken tofu). The cardamom, nutmeg and orange peel give it a warm slightly floral aroma that is vaguely reminiscent of a more traditional pumpkin pie and yet has more depth and character. The pumpkin shell adds its own nutty sweetness and the firm fleshy texture gives the dessert structure.

I like to serve this cold so it holds its shape, but you could certainly serve it warm in a bowl. The first night I poured some grade B maple syrup on top along with some freshly grated nutmeg, but you could also serve it with acacia honey and cinnamon. The second night I sprinkled some sugar on top and got the blowtorch out to give it a crisp burnt sugar crust on top.

Crustless milk and cardamom “pumpkin pie”

1 small pumpkin (such as kabocha or small sugar pumpkin)
14oz can sweetened condensed milk
1 C milk
7 green cardamom pods smashed
1 whole nutmeg seed (or 1/4 tsp ground nutmeg)
orange peel
3 egg yolks
2 whole eggs

Thoroughly wash the outside of the pumpkin then cut a round hole in the top around the stem. Lift the “lid” off and use a spoon to scrape all the seeds and stringy stuff from the inside surface of the pumpkin and lid.

Preheat the oven to 350 degrees. Fill the bottom of a large pot with about 1/2″ of water and place a steamer basket at the bottom. Put the pumpkin on top and make sure the pot lid will close (don’t worry about the lid to the pumpkin, you can cook it on the side).

Combine the two types of milk in a saucepan and gently heat until you see steam rising (but not boiling). Turn the heat down as low as it will go then add the cardamom, nutmeg and orange peel and steep for 3 minutes. Turn the heat off and allow the spices to continue steeping in the milk until the milk is lukewarm (about 10 minutes).

Whisk the egg yolks and whole eggs together then whisk this into the milk mixture. Use a fine mesh sieve to strain the mixture straight into the pumpkin leaving about 1/2″ of room at the top. Depending on the size of your pumpkin you may not be able to fit all the custard.

Cover the top of the pumpkin with a piece of foil to prevent moisture from getting in the custard and put the pumpkin lid next to the pumpkin. Cover the pot with a lid and bring to a boil. Transfer the pot to the oven and cook for about 1 hour. You might want to test it at 50 minutes. You can do this by sticking a knife in the custard (if it comes out clean it’s set), you’ll also want to make sure the pumpkin is cooked.

When the custard is done, remove it from the oven and allow it to cool with the lid off until it is cool enough to lift out of the pan. Cool to room temperature then put it in the fridge for a few hours to set. Serve by slicing wedges and plating.

  • http://www.bouchonfor2.com/ Mel

    Likely my favorite dessert post I’ve seen on here thus far. I love combining root veggies/ gourds etc. with dessert. Yam and sweet potato is my other fav. :)

  • http://www.bouchonfor2.com/ Mel

    Likely my favorite dessert post I’ve seen on here thus far. I love combining root veggies/ gourds etc. with dessert. Yam and sweet potato is my other fav. :)

  • http://www.WordsAreFood.com/ Kristin Conroy

    The pumpkin that’s pictured isn’t a kabocha, as the recipe calls for, is it? Aren’t they green? Just wanted to make sure because I want to try this soon!

  • Kristin Conroy

    The pumpkin that’s pictured isn’t a kabocha, as the recipe calls for, is it? Aren’t they green? Just wanted to make sure because I want to try this soon!

  • NJ

    I have the same question as Kristin (28) above. The kabocha that I am finding is a squash rather than a pumpkin and green rather than orange. Is the photo a sugar pumpkin? Curious as this will be our “pumpkin” pie this year and I can’t wait to hear the raves. You are a keeper, Marc!

    • marc

      Hi NJ, the photo is of a sugar pumpkin, but it works better with green skinned Kabocha (which means “pumpkin” in Japanese) as the skin on a sugar pumpkin is too hard to eat. I also like the texture of kabocha better.

    • marc

      Hi NJ, the photo is of a sugar pumpkin, but it works better with green skinned Kabocha (which means “pumpkin” in Japanese) as the skin on a sugar pumpkin is too hard to eat. I also like the texture of kabocha better.

  • NJ

    I have the same question as Kristin (28) above. The kabocha that I am finding is a squash rather than a pumpkin and green rather than orange. Is the photo a sugar pumpkin? Curious as this will be our “pumpkin” pie this year and I can’t wait to hear the raves. You are a keeper, Marc!

    • marc

      Hi NJ, the photo is of a sugar pumpkin, but it works better with green skinned Kabocha (which means “pumpkin” in Japanese) as the skin on a sugar pumpkin is too hard to eat. I also like the texture of kabocha better.

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    I am imagining how this thing taste as it slowly melts in your mouth! I can not wait to try this out! Thanks for the idea.

  • http://123recipes.com/Recipe/Oriental-Chicken-Salad/Detail I Love Chicken Salad

    I am imagining how this thing taste as it slowly melts in your mouth! I can not wait to try this out! Thanks for the idea.

  • http://123recipes.com/Recipe/Oriental-Chicken-Salad/Detail I Love Chicken Salad

    I am imagining how this thing taste as it slowly melts in your mouth! I can not wait to try this out! Thanks for the idea.

  • http://www.babypop.com/ sherry

    Oh I want to try this for my annual pumpkin carving party

  • http://karmaperdiem.wordpress.com/ Lisa McB.

    Oh my…. Now I know what to do with my garden pumpkins!

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  • Samantha Russ

    This sounds to die for! I am curious however; in the first photo, did you peel or remove the harder portion of the sugar pumpkin shell? It’s so shiny!

    • http://norecipes.com Marc Matsumoto

      Nope, it may have been from the steaming.

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  • Kristi Holzer

    I was so excited to try this and serve it at a formal holiday dinner tonight – but when I took mine out of the oven after 50 mins it was a complete watery mess.  It was actually runnier/thinner than when it went in!  I can only assume the heat pulled all the moisture out of the pumpkin into the custard??  I’ve no idea what went wrong but I’m realllly disappointed!

    • http://norecipes.com Marc Matsumoto

      I’m sorry to hear it didn’t work out. What kind of pumpkin did you use?

      • Kristi Holzer

        I’m afraid I don’t know the name – it was a small round pumpkin that said “pie pumpkin” on the side on a sticker.   I have a photo I’ll attach.  It may well be chef’s error on my part.  And sorry if my prior post sounded cranky – I was just so excited to have such a beautiful dessert to share!

      • http://norecipes.com Marc Matsumoto

        No worries, I’d be disappointed too after spending all that time on it. Your pumpkin looks like the same variety I used. Was there any curd forming in the pumpkin at all or was it a smooth liquid consistency? How large were your eggs? I didn’t specify in the recipe, but I usually use extra large eggs.

      • Kristi Holzer

        Mine were just large.  (eggs)   I didn’t have any curd forming – it was a very runny liquid. Literally watery.  Once it cooled and sat for a time it did thicken to about milk viscosity.  I have a couple more pumpkins – maybe I’ll give it another go.  My lid on my pan didn’t seal very well because the pumpkin I used was too tall.  I’ll try and make sure to get a smaller one this time so that all seals properly.  Just to make sure – I want to keep the pumpkin in the steamer basket with the water in the bottom of the pan before placing it in the oven (with the opening covered in foil and the lid then over it all)?  And thank you so much for being willing to respond!!

      • http://norecipes.com Marc Matsumoto

        There’s a couple things that could be happening here. 1) The lid not closing all the way didn’t get the custard hot enough to set. Was the pumpkin itself soft? 2) The oven isn’t getting hot enough (do you have a thermometer you keep in the oven to verify the temperature?) 3) the foil didn’t cover the top of the pumpkin well enough and water vapor got in and watered down the custard. If you do try it again, try adding another whole egg.

      • Botany Dave

        I make a similar dessert with alternate ingredients (and cream -no condensed milk), and often find that the one annoying variable is that it never cooks through as fast as I think it will.   …Good idea about the burnt sugar on top; will have to try!  :D

      • Karen Baker

        Kristi – are you sure you used Sweetened Condensed Milk? If you just used condensed milk, the recipe won’t work.  Just a thought.  I’ve made the same mistake myself with these two types of canned milk.  

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