Tonkotsu Ramen

December 30, 2009 · 333 comments

Tonkotsu Ramen Noodle Soup

This post may have been a year in the making, but I’ve been working on this tonkotsu ramen for the better part of the last decade. In case you haven’t been indoctrinated into the wonderful world of ramen, Tonkotsu broth is the Holly Grail of noodle soup broths. It’s thick, creamy and nearly white in color, from pork marrow bones that have been simmered to smithereens.

Given the availability of reasonably good frozen ramens, and the plethora of shops specializing in the one bowl meal, most sane people in Japan don’t undertake the challenge of making ramen at home from scratch. I don’t know if I’m just crazy or if it’s my fearless American spirit, but at some point in college, it occurred to me that I could make the one bowl wonder that got me through many an all-nighter… from scratch.

My first attempts were pale watery excuses for ramen. Actually, they were more like noodles in pork soup. Over the years, my attempts yielded broths that were too porky, too brown, or too canned-meat tasting. Eventually, I got the soup to a place where you could pass it off as ramen to the less experienced palette (which was when I started writing this post), but it never quite nailed the nuanced balance of meat, aromatics, and body.

Caramelized onions, ginger and garlic for tonkotsu soup

So how did I figure it out? During my recent trip to Japan, I had many bowls of ramen, each with its own distinct character and personality. Some used chicken stock, others included pork. I even had one ramen that was made of tuna stock. I think I was in the middle of a bowl of chicken consommé ramen with bacon, mozzarella and fried burdock on top when it occurred to me that perhaps limiting myself to a 100% pork broth wasn’t the right approach for the type of stock I was trying to create.

I had another epiphany at Ramen Stadium, in Fukuoka, where I hopped from restaurant to restaurant, gorging on Tonkotsu Ramen. Many of the broths had a dark oil that I’d always assumed was sesame oil. Upon closer inspection, some of the soups revealed caramelized bits of onion that were nearly burnt. The research of Louis Camille Maillard came to mind and I realized that a lot of the nuances in the broth were not coming from the meat, but from the caramelized aromatics in the broth.

Back at home, with bags of chicken and pork bones in hand, I set to work recreating the flavours and memories while they were still fresh in my mind. And the results? Well, let’s just say I won’t be standing in line for hours outside Ippudo this winter. To say it’s better than Ippudo’s would be a strech, but does it make your lips sticky with collagen? Yes! Does it have little creamy nibbles of pork fat floating in the broth? Certainly! Does it put a big grin on your face when the steaming bowl is set in front of you? Hell yea!

Tonkotsu Ramen Broth

Mission accomplished.

The toppings are up to you, but I usually go with the standards like chashu, menma , woodear and scallions. If you want some chashu similar to Santouka Ramen’s Toroniku, here’s a recipe for my version. To give a Kagoshima flair, I finish each bowl, with a drizzle of mayu (black garlic oil). It’s technically burt garlic and it’s not something you’d want to eat alone, but mixed into tonkotsu ramen, it’s divine!

Tonkotsu Ramen with pork, corn and bok choy

This recipe makes enough Tonkotsu base for 6-8 bowls of ramen (depending on how much water you add), and the Tonkotsu Ramen recipe below makes 2 bowls.

Next, I need to find some kansui so I can tackle the noodle making as I’m not super happy with the noodles I get in Chinatown.

Equipment you'll need:

Tonkotsu Base

makes 10-12 cups of stock

2 pig trotters, cut in half lengthwise
1.5 pounds pork leg bone, cut into several pieces
1.5 pounds chicken bones

oil for deep frying
2″ knob of ginger sliced thin
1 small head garlic trimmed but whole
1 teaspoon cracked white pepper
1 large onion sliced thinly

Fill a pressure cooker 2/3rds of the way with water and bring to a boil. Add the pig trotters to the boiling water and cook until you stop seeing red blood come out of the bones (about 10-15 minutes). The idea is to draw out as much of the gunk as possible into this first batch of water. Transfer the trotters to a bowl of cold water then repeat with the leg bones and chicken bones (you can use the same water).

Dump the now very dirty water down the drain and wash the pot. Scrub any dark brown scrum off all the bones and rinse them thoroughly. Return the cleaned bones to the pot and cover with water (the water should come up an inch above the top of the bones). Bring the pot to a boil and skim off any chunks or foam that floats to the surface. Keep doing this until you don’t seen any more foam or scum floating up. This will take about 30 minutes.

While the bones are going, Heat 1/2″ of oil in a pot over medium heat and add the head of garlic and ginger. Fry this until they are browned and shriveled up. Use a slotted or wire mesh to transfer the ginger and garlic to a bowl. Add the onions to the oil and fry these until caramelized and shriveled. Add the fried onions to the ginger and garlic and set aside.

Once the stock is scum-free, add the caramelized ginger, garlic, and onions to the stock. Affix the pressure cooker lid and cook on high pressure for 1 hour and 45 minutes. If you don’t have a pressure cooker, cover with a lid and cook for 5 hours (you may need to check and add water periodically, the bones should be mostly covered in water).

Once the pressure is released use tongs to remove and discard all the bones. Remove any chunks of pork and set aside for another use. Strain the stock into a bowl and skim off any excess fat.

Mayu (black garlic oil)

1/4 cup sesame oil
5 cloves of garlic grated

To make the black garlic oil, add the sesame oil into a small saucepan along with the grated garlic. Put the pan over medium low heat and let the garlic cook stirring occasionally until it is very dark brown. When the garlic is very dark, turn the heat down to low and let it cook until it is black.

As soon as it hits black, turn off the heat and transfer the hot oil and garlic to a heatproof bowl. Let this mixture cool down completely. Add the cooled oil to a blender or food processor and blitz until there are no visible garlic particles left and the oil is uniformly black.

It will taste burnt and slightly bitter, but this is okay as you only add a little bit to each bowl. Put it the oil in a container and refrigerate until you are ready to use it.

Tonkotsu Ramen

makes 2 bowls
for soup
3 cups tonkotsu base (from recipe above)
1 tablespoon tahini
1 tablespoon strained braising liquid from chashu
2 cloves garlic, finely grated (not pressed)
1-2 teaspoons kosher salt (to taste)
1 teaspoon mirin
1/8 teaspoon white pepper
1 tablespoon sesame seeds coarsely ground
2 tablespoons finely minced fatback (salted pork fat)

to serve
1/2 batch homemade ramen noodles
2 teaspoons mayu (from recipe above)
sliced chashu
2 scallions finely chopped
other optional toppings include menma, woodear, egg, bean sprouts, corn, etc..

Heat the tonkotsu base in a sauce pan. In a bowl whisk together the tahini, chashu liquid, grated garlic, salt, mirin and white pepper. Add this to the hot broth and whisk to combine. Taste and adjust salt as needed. Bring to a simmer, then add the sesame seeds and pork fat and whisk to combine.

Split the cooked noodles between two bowls. Pour the tonkotsu soup over the noodles. Top with chashu, scallions and whatever else you want to add. Finish the ramen with a drizzle of mayu on each bowl.

Update: There have been a couple people who have had problems with the original recipe and in speaking with them, I think there are a few points I should clarify:

  1. To get the creamy white soup it’s important that you use pork leg bones and the trotters. The white color comes from the marrow and collagen in these parts. Using other types of pork bones such as ribs or neck bones will not give your soup the richness or color.
  2. Don’t omit the fatback (salted pork fat). Most of the fat from the stock gets skimmed out, and the fat added at the last minute is what gives the soup it’s rich “sticky” quality. By whisking small bits of minced fatback in at the end, you create an emulsion of soup and fat, so it makes the soup nice and creamy without being greasy. If you’re having a hard time finding it, try asking for it at a butcher.
  3. The onions should be a deep brown, but they should not be burnt, if they are browning unevenly, turn the heat down, so they brown more slowly.
  4. Tahini is not the same as toasted sesame paste. It should be light beige in color and have a thick pourable consistency. If your grocery store doesn’t carry it, try finding a Middle Eastern or Indian grocery store. I use a brand called “Al Wadi” that comes in a plastic container with a green label and lid and has a relatively mellow flavor. If you can’t get tahini you can also grind your own sesame seeds until you have something resembling runny peanut butter.
  5. Salt has different levels of salinity depending on the type and brand. Even amongst kosher salt, Morton’s for example is much more salty than Diamond Crystal (which I use). Most recipes deliberately go low on the amount of salt you should use so you don’t accidentally over salt your dish. If you feel like it needs more salt, by all means, add more salt.
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  • Cklasse

    I just tried and eaten my ramen using this recipe but it failed miserably. I must have done something wrong along the way.

    Why is my soup brown in colour when yours is cream? Have I caramelised the onions too much?
    Why is the soup kind of bland? Is it because I did not put enough pork?

  • norecipes

    Sorry to hear it didn't work out for you:( If your soup turned out brown, there's a couple things that may have happend. The brown colour typically comes from impurities in the meat, which you need to get rid of during the first boil (where you throw the water out) or during the boiling and skimming phase. The lid to the pressure cooker should not be sealed until you stop seeing impurities floating to the surface (foam and clumps of blood). It's also worth noting that the soup will still be a light tan colour and won't look milky until you whisk in the tahini and pork fat.

    As far as the flavour, the only thing I can think of is that your pressure cooker may be different than mine and takes longer to extract all the flavour from the bones. When your soup was done and you strained it, do you remember if the bones were crumbly? If you cooked it long enough, both the pork and chicken bones should break apart easily in your hand. The tonkotsu base should be very rich and almost sticky in your mouth before adding any of the flavourings in the the ramen recipe.

  • Lee

    I do endeavour to make this at home myself as I have recently discovered what I 'think' is this dish whilst living in Beijing!
    Is there a tonkotsu base that one can buy – cheating and completely a convenience product I know, but until I source necessary ingredients it may help stave off my cravings!
    I have only had this dish at a 'fast food' type place here and am now on a mission to find the 'real deal' here in Beijing! Any tips let me know…..

  • norecipes

    If you have a store near you that sells Japanese products you should be able
    to find “tonkotsu ramen” in the refrigerated (or frozen) food section. They
    come complete with noodles and soup base and are pretty good (often better
    than the fast food places), but they're not the same as making the stock
    yourself.

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  • jlai

    can i use something other than a pressure cooker? i don't have access to one, but would like to attempt making this.

  • norecipes

    Sure, you can cook it over the stove in a regular stock pot with a
    lid. You just need to triple the cooking time (6 hours instead of 2).
    You'll also probably need to add extra water as it will evaporate
    faster from a regular pot.

  • m-ashley

    Does the tonkatsu base freeze well. I dont do a lot of cooking, but would love homemade ramen on occasion. I'd like to make a big batch and just thaw portions when i am ready to make soup.

  • norecipes

    Yep, it freezes just fine. I often make a big batch and portion it out
    and freeze it.

  • ramen neko ^~^

    Yes ! Tonkotsu (home-made) passion rekindled after reading this ! Thank you. What pressure cooker do you own ? I should at least be using the same tools ^~^

  • norecipes

    I have a generic pressure cooker with 2 pressure settings (low and
    high). It shouldn't really matter too much, though depending on how
    much pressure your cooker can handle it the cooking time may vary. The
    idea is to cook the bones long enough so you can break them easily
    with your fingers. If they don't, just put the lid back on and keep
    cooking it.

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  • Swoeng

    I just moved back to the states having lived in Tokyo for the last two years and haven't had any success with finding a decnt ramen-ya near me. I tried your recipe for the first tine today and tested it out with my foodie friends and they absolutely loved it! I paired up the tonkatsu ramen with your buta kakuni recipe. I can't thank you enough for posting the recipe! When I now have ramen cravings I now can reach into my fridge for the broth recipe.

    • Blueluna4jam

      If you live in NYC there is this great noodle shop in china town called Ajisan Noodles. Its on Mott street (sorry don’t recall the actual address but it wont be hard to find).

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  • Ushito

    THIS IS PERFECT :)

  • noodles

    i had the same problems. my broth turned out pretty brown. i think i might have caramelized the onions too long. i only fried the onions and garlic for about 20 min and they were almost burnt. i skimmed the impurities out completely too.

    i think i spent a total of 8 hours simmering the broth but it still turned out really bland. :( i don’t know what i did wrong.

  • C Hosano

    nice.. i think you should make a video for this..

  • steb

    I’m in college right now, and for some reason during one of my lectures, I had the greatest burning desire to make a bowl of true ramen. I am so excited to have found a base recipe to get started with.

  • Koji

    wow this is amazing. I live in San Diego and there are so few places that serve good tonkotsu ramen, let alone good ramen in general. I’ve been trying to come up with a chyashyu ramen with a natto flavored soup base, but not much luck. Have any ideas of where to start?

  • http://twitter.com/ramenbackpacker The Ramen Backpacker

    Hi,

    I’ve been using this recipe for a few years now. I found it online after a few failed attempts at using a recipe for Tonkotsu that some friends from Japan gave me. Slurping the broth that this recipe makes takes me right back to a bowl of noodles I ate in a Ramen shop under Fukuoka station a few years back. Just perfect.

    I often debate with my wife the nutritional value (if any) of a bowl of Ramen. So to end the controversy, I decided to enter your recipe into the About.com Calorie Counter. I’m unsure in regards to this site’s credibility amongst the diet industry, although I used it a few years ago when I was trying to loose weight.

    The results are here: http://theramenbackpacker.blogspot.com/2010/10/how-nutritional-is-ramen.html

    Based on a (meagre) serving of 319g, the calorie counter offered some unsurprising results including 2353mg of salt per serve, and a saturated fat rating of 25 per cent.

    What shocked me was the actual calorie count. The results showed, a serve of your Tonkotsu Ramen is only 397 calories. So in theory a serve of ramen can quite comfortably fit into a daily diet of 1500 calories. Diet Ramen!

  • Noodles

    Making the base/stock wasn’t easy.

    Thanks for sharing the Tonkotsu Ramen recipe. I have been looking for an authentic ramen recipe online, which wasn’t easy to find.

    Therefore, I am giving your recipe a try. The stock is currently cooking my kitchen for about 3 hours. It smell delicious, however, the stock still looks clear and NOT MILKY (uuurggggh) :-S. I think I am looking for a 2nd trial. I think my mistake might because I use the hip bone. Not quite happy with the result…..but, haven’t yet giving up.

    Arigato Gozaimasu

    • Anonymous

      The milky color comes from the marrow and collagen in the leg bones, other
      bones will get you good stock, but it will not have the same color/flavor.
      I’ve also started adding the pig feet (trotters) to the base as well, which
      makes the soup very creamy.

  • Timothychanchihim

    i would like to ask that when you say drain the garlic and onion and put it into the base, do you mean to drain into the soup and discard the onion and garlic? or drain the oil and put the onion and garlic into the soup? thx

    • Anonymous

      Use a slotted spoon to drain the oil from the onions and garlic then
      add it to the soup.

  • Timothychanchihim

    i think i caramelize my onions too much that the base is not white but little too brownish… oh well gotta try harder, thx for the recipie anyways

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  • http://twitter.com/khursten khursten

    Dear Marc,

    I have been craving for the flavor of Ippudo’s tonkotsu ramen ever since I left Osaka last August. I do have a question, in the absence of tahini, do you have a substitute? What does tahini do to the flavor of tonkotsu? It’s a rare ingredient here in Manila so I was wondering if it makes an entire difference or if I can use a substitute.

    • Anonymous

      If you can get toasted sesame seeds you could make it yourself. Tahini
      is basically sesame seeds that have been ground into a butter (like
      peanut butter). I’ve used peanut butter in a pinch, but it’s much
      better if you can just grind your own sesame seeds with a mortar and
      pestle. As for what it does to the soup, it adds creamy body, richness
      and a nutty flavor. I hope that helps!

      • Anonymous

        Thanks a lot! I appreciate it. I believe I like the idea of having to make my own tahini (and from the looks of it, it’s cost effective too.)

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  • Michael [KyotoFoodie]

    Mission accomplished, indeed!!

    This looks excellent and I *think* I want to try it someday. Well, no, I am absolutely sure that I want to, and *think* that I actually will. It is quite a project.

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  • stephen

    You are a hero

  • Maztec

    Do you think cow bones would work instead of pig bones? Wife won’t eat pork, but this looks so wonderfully delicious.

    • Anonymous

      Tonkotsu ramen is always made with pork (“ton” means pork in Japanese). That
      said, in Korea there’s a soup called Sulong Tang that’s made with a white
      beef marrow broth that’s quite good. Making broth out of beef marrow bones
      could make for a very unique ramen, though you might want to change the
      seasonings to take advantage of the characteristics of a beef stock.

      • Maztec

        Thanks! That is a great tip. Perhaps I can find a delicious hybrid of this. When I get around to it, if it’s any good, I will try to remember to come back and comment!

      • Nisalarasati

        The recipe looks great! I took up the challenge for making successful ramen as my Japanese friend told me it’s almost impossible. However, pork is not really my favourite. Do you have other suggestions other than tonkotsu broth (or cow)? Maybe with chicken or fish and just taste as good? And if I am to use cow bone marrow, what kind of the seasonings you think would compliment the beefy taste? Thanks!

  • http://ifyouforgetme.wordpress.com/ Steffi Fermazi

    I will definitely try this. Someday. At least not here in Saudi Arabia. ;)
    But it looks so delicious and (most of all) doable!

  • http://www.zenkimchi.com/FoodJournal ZenKimchi

    I dream of that ramen in Fukuoka. I noticed that in their bubbling cauldron they had pig skulls, and when they pulled them up, they disintegrated like wet cardboard.

    • Anonymous

      That makes sense, the skulls have a lot of collagen, but you should be able
      to get the same creaminess by using trotters.

  • Starboltkid

    Question…in your recipe above for making the ramen…it says to mix the tahini, chashu liquid, etc….with water, but it doesn;t have the amount of water listed in ingredients…How much water do you use? I made everything last night and the soup base yielded 3 cups…only enough for two people. So, I am wondering ( haven;t tasted it yet) if it is concentrated and more water can be added without compromising taste. Thank you SO much for putting this recipe up. I lived in nagoya for 9 years and Ippudo was a twice weekly visit for me. Miss it!

    • Anonymous

      Hi, sorry about that, the water in the directions was a hold-over from an
      earlier iteration of the recipe (before I added the chashu braising liquid).
      Did you make the soup base in a pressure cooker? If not, it’s possible that
      your soup has reduced too much while cooking. Were the bones still covered
      in liquid when it was finished? The tonkotsu base recipe should yield about
      10-12 cups of stock (assuming you made the full recipe), so you should be
      able to add some water to your stock.

      • Starboltkid

        thank you. No, I didn;t have a pressure cooker. What you said is exactly what happened…We shall see how it goes. Again, I truly appreciate you puttin gthis recipe out there for all of us who miss the tate of Delicious tonkatsu ramen.

  • James

    Thanks so much for this recipe. I live in Australia and to find any decent ramen, not to mention tonkotsu ramen, is near impossible. I became hooked on Tonkotsu ramen after living in Fukuoka and getting a taste for its mouth watering broth, so it seems I have no choice but to recreate the experience at home. I was wondering for the home-made ramen noodles, is there an alternative to mixing the ingredients for the dough if you don’t have a mixer? Thanks again :-)

    • Anonymous

      Where in Australia are you? It’s been a long time, but I recall
      getting some descent ramen in Sydney. As for the dough, you can hand
      knead everything together.

      • James

        Do you remember the name of the place in sydney? I’m about 3 hours from there in Canberra – its the capital but its such a small town. It seems even the places that do serve ramen rarely have tonkotsu in my experience. Its more miso ramen or shoyu ramen. Maybe the porky flavor isn’t to everyone’s taste!

      • Anonymous

        Nope, by a long time I’m talking 15+ years. There are a ton of food
        bloggers both in Sydney and Melbourne though, perhaps one of them
        might know of a good place.

      • Amanda

        Try Ryo’s in Sydney’s Crows Nest.

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  • Annesue

    I am rather curious about trying to make this, and I’m rather curious as to how to go about it if I want to use the pig’s head as a base for the stock.

    Would I need to draw out the gunk the same way as the trotters, or do I just start boiling it straight away and would I need to remove the brain if it’s still attached??

    I know you haven’t posted a recipe with it, but I’m curious as to how you would have gone about it!

    Kind regards and I can’t wait to try out this amazing looking recipe!

    • Anonymous

      I’ve never worked with a pig head before so I’m honestly not sure what
      to do with the brain. That said, you will definitely need to draw out
      the gunk as you would with any other cut of meat that has blood in it.
      You could also probably leave out the trotters, but I would not omit
      the leg bones. I’m assuming that a pig head is going to weigh
      significantly more than 1.5 pounds, so you’ll also need to do the math
      to figure out how you need to change the ratio of other ingredients.
      Hope that helps.

  • joe

    This is beautiful! How long do you think the gelatinous stock will last in the fridge/freezer/through multiple reheats?

    • Anonymous

      Thanks! I wouldn’t reheat the base stock, just use as much as you need
      at a time. For freezing, I usually portion out serving size amounts
      into tupperware and freeze, should last for months frozen. As for the
      fridge, it should keep for about a week.

  • Jacob Estes

    I read this recipe a few weeks ago, and thought it was interesting, but didn’t really make any plans to actually make it. Then, I was browsing a grocery store I haven’t been to in a couple years and noticed they have pig’s feet packaged up with the other meat. I’ve never seen them raw like that!

    Anyway, I’ve never made stock or broth before (well, not for the purpose of having broth), and so this is a lot of firsts for me. It’s on the stove as I type this, and so far it’s looking good.

    Thanks!

  • Skye

    I’ve been going nuts trying to find the bones for this. Where/how on earth do you acquire a pound and a half of chicken bones? Will chicken backs work? And I can’t pork leg bones, either. Any idea how many pounds of pork shanks would translate to enough bones?

    • Anonymous

      Do you have a butcher in town (not at a supermarket)? They should have a
      supply of bones from the chickens they debone. As for the pork, butchers
      should also have those too. They most likely won’t have them on display
      since it’s not really something people usually buy, but if you ask them,
      they should be able to set some aside for you the next time they butchering
      chickens/pig. Pork shanks should work, but how much meat is on them? You
      really want the bones more than the meat. If you have a Chinatown near you a
      Chinese butcher should have no problem getting you what you need (the might
      even have them out in the case).

  • mcouperide

    For New Years Day 2011 I decided to try out this ramen recipe, including the homemade noodles. I spent four hours yesterday gathering all the ingredients (most difficult to find was the kansui for the noodles – I drove to four different Asian stores to find it. I never did find the pork cheek for the chashu), and five hours today standing in the kitchen cooking everything. My wife thought I had gone nuts (she is herself a fantastic gourmet chef and does all the cooking, usually. I realize now that I am soooo lucky).
    Considering I spent 9 hours gathering stuff and and preparing two bowls of ramen, it did ocurr to me that we could have driven up to New York (from suburban DC), stand in line at Ippudo Ramen, and driven back, probably in the same or less time.
    My resulting ramen was a respectable accomplishment for a first attempt. Maybe not quite as savory and robust as Ippudo, but actually more healthy-tasting, and pretty damn good tasting at that. Even my wife was impressed.
    I pretty much followed your suggested recipes for everything, including the mayu. I have some ideas for modifications the next time I venture to try again. But thank you for your recipes; they are spot on!

    • Anonymous

      Awesome glad to hear it. It is time consuming, but you can freeze the
      leftover tonkotsu base, so the next few bowls shouldn’t take you quite as
      long:-) The recipe is still evolving on my end so I’d love to hear what you
      do with it next time!

  • Anonymous

    Hi Lo, what kind of pork bones did you use? If you included pork trotters
    (the feet) the stock should have been pretty white before you added
    anything. Also, from your post it sounds like you omitted the tahini and fat
    back. Both those ingredients add to the whiteness of the stock. You should
    be able to get tahini in any middle eastern grocery store. If you can’t you
    can make your own by grinding toasted sesame seeds with a mortar and pestle
    until it forms a smooth paste. As for the fatback, you can just use raw pork
    fat, but it’s essential that it has not been cooked (once its cooked most of
    the fat has rendered out and it will not give you the creamy mouthfeel ramen
    is supposed to have).

    • Anonymous

      Hey Marc,

      Yeah i had to omit the tahini and i used cooked fat back, so that might explain it! Will definitely try again with those two. thanks again!

  • Kathy

    This is probably a stupid question but does it make a difference what sort of pork leg bones are used? I picked up pork femur bones but also noticed some pork legs (not the feet) but with the flesh/skin still on (similar to the package of pork feet).

    My stock is more of a rich brown than pale cream color (chicken bones, pork femur bones & pork trotters). But I possibly caramelized the onion too much if the bones weren’t the issue.

    • Anonymous

      Hi Kathy, The femur bone should be right. Did you do the double boil for the
      bones? It’s possible the onions were over caramelized, but I get them pretty
      dark brown when I do it.

      • Kathy

        Thanks for the quick reply!

        I made the actual tonkatsu broth today (I seem to only have time to do a part a day >_>;;) and the sidefat (I couldn’t find fatback anywhere – Whole Food’s, Meat Shop or the grand asian market) and tahini definitely toned down the color but it was still more of a light-medium caramel brown. It was still good though!

        I’m wondering if I didn’t cook the bones long enough. I used a pressure cooker but my mother fussed about the pressure so it was more low-medium (although I’m not really sure how to gauge it… it’s the same pressure she uses to make sweet peanut soup). So I tried to make up for that by pressure cooking 2.5 hours.

        The chashu was absolutely delicious though. Thanks for putting all these recipes together!

  • Chocolatesa

    What type of sesame oil do you use for the mayu? Black or golden?

    • Anonymous

      I used golden, but black would give it a darker color, interesting idea!

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  • Rumraisin4me

    This is great. But is there a slightly simply (less ingredients) version of the soup base and ramen that’s maybe 50% easier but only about 15% less awesome?
    This seems to be a recipe for the perfect tonkotsu ramen, but I’d like a recipe that has the best balance of easy to make vs awesome tasting. Thanks!

    • Anonymous

      I’m usually all for cutting corners to make something 95% as tasty but with
      much less effort, but unfortunately there’s no shortcuts to be had here
      (unless you just buy packaged ramen.

  • serissime

    I’m really excited to make this. I asked some questions about noodles on the noodle page, but I have another question. I read your chashu page and I don’t remember ever seeing pig cheek in the store. I do know that my favorite butcher has beef cheek. I think they might have pork belly sometimes. Which would be better, beef cheek or pork belly? I also might need to use beef femur for the pig bones, not sure. Do you think that would be too different? I will have to actually ask the butcher to see if they have other stuff in the back or could specifically save me some when they slaughter. Anyways, thanks! I’m drooling now

    • Anonymous

      If your butcher carries pork, they should have the leg bones and feet.
      If not, try a latin american or chinese grocery store. As for the pork
      in Chashu, it’s traditionally made with pork belly so that will work
      just fine. I would not recommend using beef for ramen as it will have
      a very different flavor. If you have trouble finding pork products,
      chicken will produce a closer flavor than beef.

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  • serissime

    Hey again! I am about to start the broth tomorrow! I ended up getting 2 sliced pig trotters, and several pounds of pork *knuckles.* I asked around several places (including ethnic markets and on-site butchers) and no-one had pork marrow bones, only beef. (I got the impression that I would have to preorder for a slaughter date, and I’m not sure if they would do less than a 40lb case.) Also, no one had any chicken frames or bones. I did make chicken wings the other day and have a few wing-tips, as well as about a pound of leftover raw wings. Think I can use that as my chicken? I figure I’ll just strain the meat and everything out anyways.. and wings must have marrow too! Also, when everything is done being boiled for scrum, and you say to put the bones back in, you include the trotters, right? Just making sure :)

    I couldn’t find any pig cheek, just beef–but I did buy some pork belly. What I got has the skin left on… I should take it off before I make the chashu, right? And the ~1in thick layer of fat between skin and meat too, I would think.

    • http://norecipes.com Marc Matsumoto

      The wings should work fine:-) Yep, after you do the first boil to get
      rid of the extra blood, you put everything back in a pot of clean
      water (you’ll still need to skim it for about 20 minutes as more scum
      will come up, but most of the really nasty stuff will be gone). As for
      the pork belly, it’s up to you whether you remove the skin or not. In
      Japan they would remove it (and the extra fat), but in China they
      would leave it on.

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