See how classic Wustof and JA Henckels chef’s knives stack up against newcomers by New West Knifeworks.
I tend to be pretty flexible in the kitchen and make up for equipment deficiencies by repurposing other tools. One thing I just can’t deal with though is a dull knife. It’s one of my biggest kitchen pet peeves and something I find all too often when I cook in someone else’s kitchen.
When New West Knifeworks offered to send me some knives to review, I was excited by the chance to compare them to the knives in my current arsenal. While I’m always telling people that you only need one chef’s knife and one paring knife, I inherited pack-rat tendencies from my mother and have amassed quite a collection of kitchen knives over the years. To make this comparison as comprehensive as possible, I got some of the older ones out of mothball and gave them all a good sharpening so I could share how well the New West knives stacked up.
What are your kitchen pet peeves?
Back in my college days, it was common to find people with cheap knife sets that sliced through food about as cleanly as an aluminum baseball bat. This was understandable, for that matter, my first knives came from Macy’s on clearance and they came with a ceramic pot full of cooking utensils. Now that my peers have all grown up, they’ve moved on to better knives, but I’m still often shocked at how dull their knives are.
It seems that people have it in their heads that if they spend lots of money on a knife, it will stay sharp forever. This simply isn’t true. The constant abuse the fragile edge takes with every stroke on the cutting board will blunt even the sharpest knife over time. That’s why it’s important to hone your knives on a regular basis and sharpened them when they need it.
I sometimes hear people say that they don’t sharpen their knives because they are worried about cutting themselves. I know it may sound a bit counter-intuitive, but when handled correctly, a sharp knife is much safer than a dull one. Accidents happen when a knife slips, or when you are using too much pressure because the knife isn’t doing its job.
So what are the criteria to judge a knife by? The best knives will hold their edge for a long time without sharpening and can easily be resharpened back to their original edge. Beyond that, there are subjective measures such as appearance, weight, balance, blade length, curvature of the blade, and the ergonomics of the handle. I’ll attempt to cover these points over a series of two posts.
Over the next few weeks, I’ll be using all the knives below on a regular basis and I’ll be sharing my observations on Twitter with the hashtag #knifeoff. At the end of my review period, I’ll share some conclusions here, including which knife held its edge for the longest.
The Contenders:
New West Knifeworks Phoenix “The 9”(price:$199, weight:7.9 oz, usable length:8.75″)
New West Knifeworks Fusionwood “Chef 8”(price:$149, weight:9.7 oz,usablelength:7.75″)
Wusthof Classic(price: $110,weight:8.7 oz,usablelength:7.75“)
J.A. Henckels Fine Edge Pro(price:$15, weight:5.3 ozusable length: 8″)
Japanese nakiri bocho (price: $?? , weight: 5 oz, usable length: 6.25″)
Initial thoughts:
New West Knifeworks Phoenix “The 9”
Right out of the box I already knew I was going to love this knife. The Damascus steel blade is beautiful to look at with its nebulous swirls of high carbon steel and the candy red handle sports curves in all the right places. This knife just wants to be held in the tender caress of your palm. It’s also relatively light. This isn’t normally a good thing for a knife, since you should be using the weight of the knife to slice through whatever you are cutting, but in this case the thin blade is so sharp it effortlessly glides through everything from meat to tomatoes to ginger. The blade is also 1″ longer than most chef’s knives and that extra length really helps, especially when you’re trying to cut thin slices of meat or fish.
While I’d love to declare this knife the winner and be done with it, there are a few minor drawbacks I should mention. The first is that the blade is a little more narrow than a standard chef’s knife, so it does make scooping things up and over to a pan a bit of a chore. The second thing is that the blade is thinner than a chef’s knife, so I wouldn’t use it to debone a chicken for fear of chipping the blade. Neither of these drawbacks are really the knife’s fault since it’s technically not a chef’s knife, so if you can afford having this one and a more heavy duty chef’s knife, you won’t be disappointed.
New West Knifeworks Fusionwood “Chef 8”
More burly and rugged than its lithe Phoenix brethren, this is the Mickey Rourke of knives. It’s not much of a looker, but this knife isn’t worried about getting dirt under its nails, and it does a couple of things the The 9 doesn’t. First of all the blade is really thick, inspiring confidence when hacking your way through a whole chicken. The extra weight also helps in this department (you’ll need a proper butcher block if you don’t want to whack right through your cutting board). The broad blade makes it the perfect scoop for transferring those minced onions over to the pan without dropping them all over the floor.
The only minor flaw I found upon initial testing is that the blade discolored after only a few uses. I suspect it happened when I used the knife to cut up a hot pork roast, which has never happened before with any other knife I’ve used. This doesn’t effect how the knife functions though, and frankly it adds a little something to its grizzled charm.
Wusthof Classic
This has been my go-to knife for the past 3 years. During that time, it’s been one of my most treasured kitchen
tools and it’s seen a lot of action. I gave it a good sharpening before embarking on this knife off to ensure that it had the best chance of holding its own against the new knives in the block.
Now that I’ve used the New West Knifeworks’ knives, I do notice some flaws in the Wusthof’s design. First of all, the weight is almost perfectly distributed between the handle and the blade. It’s a personal preference, but I would rather have more of the weight in the blade since this is the part that actually does the slicing. Also, when doing a lot of chopping, the squared edges of the handle just don’t feel as nice as the beveled handles on the New West knives. Lastly, I’m not one to choose kitchen equipment for style over function, but the “classic” look is a bit dated, and next to the gorgeous Phoenix knives, it will have a hard time winning any beauty contests. That said, it’s a fine piece of cutlery that costs significantly less than the hand crafted ones above, so it shouldn’t be totally discounted, especially if you’re on a tight budget.
J.A. Henckels Fine Edge Pro
Put simply, this knife is a piece of crap. It not only looks cheap with its flimsy stamped (as opposed to forged) blade, it feels like a toy in your hand. The blade will actually flex if you’re trying to cut something hard. Of course, for the price, you could do a lot worse, but I’d recommend saving up and getting something a little more solid since a good knife should last you for many many years.
In all fairness I should mention that this wasn’t exactly an apples to apples comparison, since Henckels has other more expensive lines of knives that would probably compare more favourably to the other competitors. I’m including it in this comparison anyway as a representative sample of all knives in this price range.
Japanese nakiri bocho
A nakiri bocho (literally vegetable cutting knife) isn’t technically a chef’s knife, but it’s roughly the same size, so I thought I’d throw it into the ring along with the other knives. With a very light wooden handle and most of the weight in the thin blade, some might find this knife “unbalanced”. Personally I don’t mind the blade forward weight bias. The cutting edge is almost flat, making it perfect for rapidly chopping and mincing vegetables and herbs. Although it’s not intended for meat, and fish, the blade is sharp enough that it does an admirable job with both. The only major drawback of using it on meat is that the blade is quite short and you might not be able to slice all the way through a thicker piece of meat in one stroke.
If you like to chop using a rocking motion (instead of a circular motion), the flat edge may make this type of knife awkward for you. Another problem is that it’s made from a regular carbon steel (not stainless). This makes the knife rust, and the softer blade tends to lose its edge rather quickly. That said, it can be sharpened to a razor sharp edge that you could shave with, and it is very easy to sharpen.
Marc Matsumoto says
As I mentioned in the post the choice of knives was more about what I had in the drawer. I’m sure the S series are fine knives.
I’m also totally with you on the glass/stone cutting board thing. I have no idea why anyone would subject their knives to such abuse and am even more puzzled by the manufacturers that produce them.
Marc Matsumoto says
If you’re going to be in Japan you should be able to get your hands on some awesome cutlery, but for the rest of us, the blades for the Phoenix line are actually made in Japan out of 33 layers of Damascus steel.
Marc Matsumoto says
Hi Stephen, I’m not a huge an of ceramic knives. They hold their edge very well due to the hardness of the ceramic, but they cannot be sharpened and need to be sent to the manufacturer when they eventually get blunt. Another issue for me is that I’m a bit clumsy and have a tendency to drop or strike blades against hard surfaces inadvertently. With a steel blade, this can be repaired fairly easily by removing some of the steel. With a ceramic knife, you may as well go and get a new one.
That said, knives are largely about personal preference, so what’s important is that you’re happy with your purchase and that you got a good deal.
Ravenouscouple says
great review and discussion on knives. The Wusthof classic is our first good chef’s knife and we love it. We’ll love to try the japanese vegetable knife one day.
Marc Matsumoto says
Taking it to a pro is definitely the best bet, but you should keep a honing steel (those metal rods that are often mistakenly called “knife sharpeners”) at home and use it on a regular basis to realign the edge and keep the blade sharp for as long as possible.
Marc Matsumoto says
If you love your knives don’t use those electric sharpeners. They remove a ton of metal and while they get your knives relatively sharp, your knife won’t last very long if you keep using it.
I’m no sharpening expert, but I use a combination of wusthof gadget that has a carbide and ceramic “v” and a stone to sharpen my knives. I also use a honing steel on a regular basis to keep the edge aligned.
Marc Matsumoto says
The Phoenix should work well for you. It’s really light and I love using it especially when I have a lot to chop for two reasons. 1) the weight – it’s light and most of the weight is in the blade 2) the handle – it feels soft in your hand due to the rounded edges, but it’s still substantial enough that you can get a good grip on it.
Jai says
Believe it or not, I have Wusthof knives (pairing & chef)
but, my $12.00 chinese cleaver is all I use for everything.
It’s about 5 years old and gets sharpened regularly but I’ve
honed my knife skills to accomplish whatever I need with this cleaver (kinda Martin Yan ish) OOPS! Ever use one?
veron says
That Phoenix looks real sexy. A knife chooses it’s wielder…he..hee..just kidding. I wanted to get a Shun knife but I found that I my extremely small hands like the feel of the Global chef knife. So I wanted to get a global paring knife to go with it but it felt weird when I tried it. It turns out the Wustof paring knife was the perfect fit for my hands. So, really people should go to the store and try and handle different knives before making a purchase.
Marc Matsumoto says
The cleavers are a great deal, but they’re a bit heavy for me especially when I’m prepping for a large party and need to do a ton of chopping. I do like the “badass” appeal that goes along with wielding a massive cleaver though;-)
Marc Matsumoto says
The cleavers are a great deal, but they’re a bit heavy for me especially when I’m prepping for a large party and need to do a ton of chopping. I do like the “badass” appeal that goes along with wielding a massive cleaver though;-)’, ‘0
veron says
That Phoenix looks real sexy. A knife chooses it’s wielder…he..hee..just kidding. I wanted to get a Shun knife but I found that I my extremely small hands like the feel of the Global chef knife. So I wanted to get a global paring knife to go with it but it felt weird when I tried it. It turns out the Wustof paring knife was the perfect fit for my hands. So, really people should go to the store and try and handle different knives before making a purchase.
A says
I’d like to defend my knives, but I like them too much to send them to you so they’re handy for you to test! If only you could get some knife companies to sponsor the test by providing you with a standard knife like an 8″ chef’s knife.
Anyhow, I look forward to seeing the followup, as it’s how the knife performs in the long term that’s of most interest. If I were rating knives purely on the ability to hold an edge, my Al-Mar pocket knife would win hands down. It took about 6 years of regular use before it needed sharpening. If only I could find a kitchen knife of the same caliber (hmm, I wonder how the Al-Mar kitchen knives are).
Peko says
Wow, you got pitched to review knives! You are a foodie blogger of note! That is great.
The Fushionwood series appeals to me.
Abby says
I own the Wusthof classic, and absolutely love it. It’s absolutely my go-to knife. I think alot of that has to do with the fact that I slice using a back-to-forward rocking motion, and the balance and handle of the Wusthof naturally fits my hand and arm very very well. (But I am not built like your average chef – feminine arms with tiny palms but very long fingers.)